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Sunday, December 4, 2016

Thoughts on Rural and Urban Politics

Thoughts on Rural and Urban Politics

Rural America.

This article at Roll Call by Alex Roarty tells the story about the loss of rural America by the Democrats. But to be honest because I’m from rural America I saw the same things going on in the Republican Party for years. I have been fighting it for years. I know firsthand about the “Professional” political class overlooking the rural areas and taking us for granted.

If you think not, think of Jeb Bush’s claim that he would win the Republican nomination without the base. The base is rural America. While Hillary and the Dems. take the minority vote for granted and abuse them and make policies that keep them from succeeding even she would not have the gall to claim she could win without them. Poor old Jeb got tons of money from the big urban donors spent it on ads and a bunch of college kids and ended up wasting all of it.

Why do both parties do that? Simply put it’s easier.

I’m as lazy as the next person, and when I did some campaigning in rural areas but lived in an urban area I hated it because the people lived so far apart. It is easier to knock on 100 doors in the city with houses at most 100 feet apart than in the country where they might be ½ a mile apart. The city offers so many things that make campaigning easier. Besides the closeness of the people there are infrastructure advantages. I’m talking about easy hookup for internet and TV. Good cell phone reception. And above all enough people in one place to justify the expense of a campaign headquarters.

All up and down the campaign trail population centers make it easier. The bigger the concentration the better. Therein lies the seductive seed for what ails both parties. A class of college kids end up running these urban areas and do it the way they are taught and they are judged by the number of contacts they make – not the quality. It becomes all about numbers. The numbers of contacts become the gospel of the major party operatives.

The problem is those contacts are by mail or phone or the dreaded recorded phone message and door knocks by people that just want to knock on your door and mark you down as a contact but don’t really want to talk with you about what you want to talk about. This quote from the article says it all. “….And they’re not addressing stuff that’s important to us.”

In my own experience I learned about the power of rural America from then State Rep. Goeff Hansen. Hansen was a State Rep from Hart and decided to run for the State Senate. At the time I lived in Muskegon. He invited me to an organizational meeting for his campaign. This is when I first learned the power of rural America, and its inherent difficulty. The power in Rural America is scattered over a large area as Trump would say a Yuge area. His Senate District included three Rural Counties plus urban Muskegon County which alone had as many votes as the 3 Rural Counties put together. 

Goeff knew rural America, he lived there, he worked his way up the political ladder there,he had won elections there. He showed us at that 1st meeting, how in his winning State Rep campaigns he had over 60% of the vote from the rural counties and all he had to win was somewhere around 25% of Muskegon to win the Senate Seat.

In black and white it was obvious and I’ll never forget it. It sunk in. Coming from a rural district, Goeff knew he could not win without the rural vote. He also knew how to get it. His main competition for that seat was Holly Hughes and David Farhat both from Muskegon they didn’t know much about the rural vote. Their favorite saying was “you can’t win this seat unless you’re from Muskegon”. May have sounded good in Muskegon but sounded pretty condescending to those “Rural Folk”. In their eyes Muskegon was just too big, had too many voters to not be the key to the election, plus easier to campaign in. In their self-righteousness they became lazy – but the numbers and Goeff’s hard work proved them wrong.

Guess what? They ignored the rural vote and well Goeff didn’t. He jumped in hard and early in Muskegon, Goeff was all over the place, both rural and city and was out there beating the bushes when all Holly and Dave were trying to figure out was which one of them would win the primary. Hansen made such an impression around Muskegon that his two likely opponents decided not to even run in the primary. Remember also that there are plenty of rural townships East and South of the City of Muskegon.

Getting back to the article one of the interviewees seems proud that he “…is trying to organize a conference call with New York Sen. Charles E. Schumer, the incoming Senate Democratic leader, to talk about outreach strategies.”

I too have seen all this top down outreach, all it amounts to is the urban planners trying to get rural people to do things the way they do. For all their good intentions it just doesn’t work. The logistics alone are staggering. For example 2,000 Trump yard signs could have been dropped off at the urban area HQ and dispersed by people coming into the headquarters, easy peasy.

In my case, living now in rural America, the 2,000 signs I bought had to be distributed by me. I first delivered them to the County Parties 250 to Mason County, 300 to Saginaw County, 100 to Lake, 100 more to Mason, 100 more to Lake, 100 to Muskegon County, 100 to Benzie, 100 to Newaygo, 150 more to Mason, and about 400 in two trips to Oceana County. All the rest were hand delivered to people who called me or the party. I probably spent $200 just on gas. I didn’t keep track of time but a trip from my house to Ludington is 45 minutes one way. Imagine the head ache that kind of logistical problem would be to a bunch of college kids running a campaign? When compared to the cost per number of signs delivered it just wouldn't be worth it. I've seen it from past experience and that is why I bought those signs.

In Oceana County our Party had no Headquarters out of which to organize or have people come to pick up signs. In Oceana County we have a “Mobile Campaign Headquarters” which is simply a pickup tricked out with Banners for our Party that every Friday morning set up at a different village in front of the local breakfast joint. We would wave signs and give out all the signs from all the candidates to the voters. We gave out lit and buttons and bumper stickers and what have you. But again what a logistical nightmare.

We had to have the schedule in advance then advertise it twice in the local paper. Get a motivated crew to show up early Friday mornings and I mean early. This however when done right was a far more personal method than the formal HQ set up. After all Politics is Personal.

With this unique Trump campaign year, we turned these events into “Trump Flash Mobs” we had more volunteers than normal and everyone was pumped up. That is where I found out about rural America and the love they had for Trump. People would give us the thumbs up and honk their horns. It was really invigorating for the volunteers.

On the last day at a special “Flash Mob” we called in Hesperia, one man gave us a $100 and said we should buy ourselves lunch. Another one came up a little later with a $20 and said buy yourselves something to drink. Wow – we did. After the “Flash Mob” we went to Daniels Restaurant wearing all our Trump gear and had a big lunch left a healthy tip and split the rest. That was the only money out of all the stops and it somehow seemed fitting.

Some more quotes from the article. “They’re not showing up. And they’re not addressing stuff that’s important to us.” Another quote. “People just love it when you show up,”. Here is another quote. “They talk about the messages that worked in very urban areas, where you have a million people or more. But they don’t know how to talk about ordinary people.”

Those poor Dems in the article think they have it bad. Well if you remember the Republicans too talked the same talk not very long ago --- like last year.

What we too easily forget especially in a bureaucratic setting is how important the top of the ticket is in relation to getting people fired up. Getting them fired up about a great candidate is easy, firing the base up about a Hillary or a Bob Dole is impossible.

The Dems made inroads into rural America and all over the place when Obama first ran. I remember walking in a parade in Muskegon Heights for Republican Karen Bui during that first Obama wave and I could feel the excitement in the crowd. I remember there was a ripple through the crowd because a representative from the Obama campaign was said to be there. I never saw him/her but the excitement was the same as we felt at our “Trump Flash Mobs”.

The point of this blog is three fold.

1. Change, real change needs to come from the bottom up.

2. It comes faster if the leadership understands that, as Trump enthusiastically did.

3. Urban as well as Rural Americans respond better to people who understand their problems. One on One campaigning works in both Urban and Rural settings.

I’ll end this post with a reminder. Politics in a Democracy is by definition never ending. It ebbs and flows. New vibrant leaders are always needed, new spins on age old problems will forever be used. Excitement among the “unwashed masses” needs to be stirred. The more the better for our representative Democracy. For it is from that mix that new ideas and leaders are born.

We need to continue stirring that pot and letting new people and ideas rise and let free people decide what they want. The people need to be trusted if they are expected to be self governing. If we don’t then the only change remaining possible is too revolutionary and bloody to contemplate.

That is the hard work of politics. The never ending work of politics. As Patrick Caddell so aptly put it. “It’s a peaceful uprising of a people who see a country in decline and see nothing but failure in the performance of their leadership institutions. They have signaled their intent to take back their country and to reclaim their sovereignty.” .

Although Patrick was talking about the last election, it encompasses the never ending work of politics. The surprising thing is this was written by a Democrat pollster of note one day before the election. He nailed it, not with a wish and a prayer but with hard researched facts. How did I miss this? How did the country miss it. It is the best commentary I’ve seen. It is close to all of my opinions on the election and why Trump won except mine was more of the wish and prayer type.

I found it while I was looking for the picture that tops this blog. I was at a polling station all day in Fruitland Township a rural area of Muskegon and when I pulled up before the polls opened I had to park in the street because the parking lot was full. The line was as long as the picture above. Check out the blog from the rural Nor-East of our country. Sounds pretty familiar.

That is the hard work of politics. The never ending work of politics. It is done best at the local level.

Regards, Bob Carr
Live Dangerously, Tell the Truth

Saturday, December 3, 2016

The Hidden Battle

The Hidden Battle 

We all understand what we mean when we say there is a battle between the Elites and the Newcomers in the Republican Party.  The media talked ad nauseum about it during the Primary as if it was something bad.

It is not bad and the reason is simple.  

It’s just the natural way of things.

We did use it to our advantage.

We Won.

Nature abhors a vacuum.  In the last election there was a basic vacuum of candidates actually representing the people who voted for them.  A vacuum of what our representatives promised and what they did.  Nature with the aid of everyday rural Americans filled that vacuum with Donald Trump.  He to his credit is adept with seeing the void and taking advantage of it by filling it in his own way.

Let me explain.  There is a new power struggle evolving since the Citizen’s United vs FEC in 2010 Supreme Court ruling.  That case allowed profits and non-profits equal footing and ability to put unlimited resources into politics.  Republicans were able then to be on the same playing field with Unions and other non-profits. 

This formed a power vacuum on our side.  Quickly it was realized and efforts were started to fill it.  That is an ongoing process.  For instance the Koch brothers set up their network of different groups to funnel their money to that raised grass root supporters.
A vacuum within a vacuum was created when the Koch Brothers decided to not back Donald Trump and take their money out of the Presidential race and instead put it into the Senate races to secure the Senate for Republicans thinking Hillary would beat Trump and that would be the best use of their money.  

That created another vacuum this time in the Presidential Race on the Republican side.  

This article explains it pretty well.  

Many in the Koch network addicted to the Presidential race jumped ship and provided Trump with the manpower that helped in his campaign and later his transition team.  I would put Scott Haggerstrom Trump’s Mi. Co-Chair into that category.  He was one of those who left the Koch funded Americans for Prosperity to join the Trump team.  

He now is also entering another power struggle in the Michigan Republican Party and is running for Mi. State Party Chair.  I for one hope he gets funding from both Koch and the Mercers.

However, it wasn’t just the workers leaving the Koch Brothers but soon a major donor to the Koch network started branching out on their own into the Presidential Campaign waters.  They had the money and weren’t afraid to spend it.  They were the Mercers, father Robert and daughter Rebekah were filling that money vacuum in the Presidential Campaign. Picture of Rebekah below.

While the Koch brothers came later to the Trump table, the Mercers were well ahead of them and will find and have found far more influence with Trump than the Koch Brothers which the article above doesn’t seem to point out.

The unique thing about Donald Trump is like he said as quoted in the article, he doesn’t “want their money or anything else from them.”   In Trump speak that means he doesn’t need them so if they want to behave he might have a spot for them.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the Citizens United ruling gave the Republican/Conservative cause the financial and organizational boost that was needed.  All of these groups do wonderful things with their money.  All the groups (almost) that we use for research and information on the right are able to exist through funding from these different power groups because of the Citizens United ruling of the Supreme Court.  The Left hates that and is another prime example of why we needed to win this Presidential Race – to appoint judges to the Supreme Court.

The beauty of Donald Trump is that he remains beholding to none, allowing him to be thankful to all who are willing to help him “Make America Great Again".  As to the power struggle I talk about below he would probably say “Who Cares”.

This is the hidden power struggle going on for the leadership of the National as well as the State Republican Parties.  This article talks about the struggle at the top.  

If you notice on one side are conservatives Steve Bannon and Rebekah Mercer vs. the more establishment types funded by the Koch Brothers.  I had researched Robert and Rebekah Mercer before when I started seeing her name associated with groups I liked.  Here is a link to some background on her.

Now you have more than you probably want about this powerful lady.  She is 42, backed Cruz then when he dropped out changed over to Trump.  Sits on the board of the Heritage foundation among other influential Conservative non-profits.  Was influential in getting Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway their jobs.  What I like about her is that she was raised not always wealthy.  Another thing is that she is all about grass root organizing.  She in other words likes the Bottom Up approach to politics as I do.  Example is her effort through Reclaim New York.  Trying to turn NY Red is indeed a taunting task and would need a lot of “one on one” work.  Much like what I tried to do when I lived in downtown Muskegon albeit on a far lesser scale to start up Republican/Conservative groups in hotbeds of Democrat territory. 

Try googling Reclaim New York.  This is a start and is putting out the facts and having meetings to gather a base about the cost of living in NY as their main topic as caused by political corruption and over spending.  That is a good way to start. 

I know in Mi. the conservative cause was helped by the same type of research provided by the Mackinaw Center.  It gives people of a like mind a place to start and the figures to help change minds.  The money also helps to pay staff and rent offices for a more lasting effort.

I don’t bemoan but rather revel in the fact that such powerful and different people are trying to influence politics.  I rejoice that this power struggle is on our side.  I like the idea that several rich people are vying for my vote.  Because when you get right down to it from the bottom on up the ladder, all political organizations and money spending is for one simple thing – the vote - our vote.  

They want to influence our vote and what lever we pull in the voting booth.  The more people competing the better.  The freer and larger the battle the better.  How else could a free market lover with a “pragmatic streak” think?

Regards, Bob Carr
Live Dangerously, Tell the Truth

Friday, December 2, 2016

Unending Yuge News -- From Recounts, Cabinet picks etc.

Unending Yuge News
From Recounts, Cabinet picks etc.

I’m finding it hard to keep up with the breaking news all over the place.  

Still 48 days till noon Jan. 20th 2017 when Trump takes office.  That is a lot of time and I’m having a heck of a time keeping up with all the news.  

You’d think Donald Trump was already in office.

1. Recount news.

Let’s take the newest news lol on the recount in Mi.  I’ve been keeping in touch with our County Clerk and the recount which they had planned on starting today was delayed by lawyers for Trump who filed an objection to it. .  

I’ve already reported how costly and labor intensive this recount will be for all 83 counties in Mi. and the Secretary of State who will have to send reps to all counties to oversee the recount.  I’ve seen price tags from $4-12 million dollars.  

Trump filed the objection to the State Board of Canvassers which will be ruling today any time probably as I type whether to go on or not.  Will update blog as it happens.  The board has 2 Dems and 2 Reps so if a tie the recount goes forward. 

--- update ----  go to the link below and you will see the Canvass Board as predicted deadlocked so the earliest recount start is Wed.  Also Schuette's Supreme Court Motion is pending.
--- end of update ---

Trump filed on the grounds that Jill Stein is not an aggrieved person.  She could not win by almost any stretch of the imagination.  She would have to find over 2 million bad votes for Trump and Hillary that were actually cast for her.  Give me a break.

Also in the objection there was mention that Stein’s filing for a recount wasn’t filled out properly.  Either way, the Canvass Board is meeting at 9:30 today (Friday) and even if it acts today the recount can’t start for two more business days which at the earliest would be Wed. Dec 7 which some County Clerks might be tempted to say that’s “a date that will live in infamy” as they must still meet the Deadline of Dec 13th to recount all the votes.

Well if that wasn’t enough, today from AP news is out that Bill Schuette the Michigan Attorney General has filed with the State Supreme Court to stop the recount in Mi. Below is a snapshot of AP raw or breaking news off the wire about this.  Note a federal law suit has also been filed.  I don’t think this recount will happen.  I hope it doesn’t.


How about that Trump and the Carrier Deal?

Remember when Obama said “You didn’t build that” and how out of touch we thought he was with the real America?  Well he managed to show his “out of touchness” again during the primaries.  This time regarding the Carrier deal Trump had promised to figure out.  Obama's chickens seem to be coming home to roost.

Here is a You Tube of Obama stutteringly explaining how Trump doesn’t have a magic wand and isn’t a magician.  Well to paraphrase Churchill’s famous “some chicken, some neck” quote.  “Some wand, some magician”. Below is the You Tube of Obama.

America voted for someone to get the job done.  Trump isn’t in office yet and got that deal done, while President Obama dithered about re-training the workers sometime in the far future for new job markets.  

That older steelworker who asked the question probably was thinking of being trained as a hamburger flipper at minimum wage and would have turned Churchill’s quote around thinking, “some job, some wage Mr. Obama.”.

Trump’s Cabinet picks.

If you look on the side bar of my blog at the top you will see the picks President Donald Trump has made so far and the ones he still needs to fill.  I’ll try to keep up with them as they come out.

About the latest pick Trump. Secretary of Defense.  

He may have some trouble but far be it for me to say he can’t do it however much the media will never tire of saying just that. Lol.

  I’m talking about Trump’s pick of Ret. Marine Corps Gen. James "Mad Dog" Mattis as secretary of defense.  Because he was relieved from active duty in 2013 he would need a Senate waiver for sec 903 of H.R.4986 — 110th Congress (2007-2008) which reads. “(Sec. 903) Reduces from ten to seven years the period that a regular commissioned officer must wait after being relieved from active duty in order to become eligible for appointment as the Secretary or Deputy Secretary of Defense, or the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy.

That might be a problem.  Gen. Mattis has been out of service for only 4 years max and the statute above calls for 7 years.  A waiver would then be needed and would need 60 votes for the Senate to wave the statute, and then the simple majority would be needed for confirmation.  

I don’t think Republicans can get enough Dems to vote for the waiver and if so what would be the cost in political capital for Trump to do it?   But like I said who am I to say what Trump can’t do.


Trump’s Ohio Carrier/Thank You Tour Speech   .  This is a long video of the whole rally and Trump doesn’t get on until much later.

  I like the part that started at the 52:38 mark where he was talking about how for too long we have been divided, put in boxes of race age income where we live etc.  He said we need to come together and the One thing to unite us is America, America America.  Three times he said America.  

I would put what he went on to say in my words that to make America united again we have to start from the bottom and work up.  Trump said people start from the family, city then state.  He like most Americans despise the Global aspirations of the Dems.

  Any way this is a fun victory rally.


So let it be written, so let it be done.

That was reminiscent to me of Obama saying in this you tube below “I’ve got a pen……..and a phone” with of course the ever present I as In I will write it, so let what I want to be done.

That reminds me of a quote from Rufus Choate of the Whig Party talking about the United States and what we had created when he referred to how easily it can be destroyed.  “…the anger of a fool or the laughter of a fool …. May bring down in an hour …. A fragile yet beautiful creation, which a breath can unmake as a breath has made it.”  

Donald Trump soon to be President Trump may take the words of Obama to heart to rewrite what Obama has written and to resurrect James Choate breathe some life back into our fragile yet beautiful creation.  So let it be done.  I'll let you figure out who the "laughing fool" is.

Regards, Bob Carr
Live Dangerously Tell the Truth

Thursday, December 1, 2016

Who Cares? Who Cares? This is big League Stuff

The above quote of Donald Trump comes from a “60 Minutes” interview by Leslie Stahl just after he became President Elect.  He was talking about whether his “Brand” as Leslie put it was hurt.  “Who Cares? Who Cares? This is big league stuff.” he said.  This was from an article by Emily Stewart in “The Street”.

It is nice to see a President Elect so focused and intense about the job he promised to do for the American people and that is to “Make America Great Again”.  When Leslie tried to distract him he asked her Who Cares?  Making America Great Again is what he cares about and all the rest is just clutter in the way of that goal.  And quite frankly Leslie “Who Cares”?  Not really a quality question was it Leslie? 



What Executive Orders Trump will make “on day One” once he is President. 

For a You Tube of this and others of interest please see right side bar.

o    TRADE - Withdraw from TPP and negotiate bilateral trade deals in America's favor
o    ENERGY - Cancel job-killing restrictions on American energy industry (including shale energy and clean coal)
o    REGULATION - For each new regulation, 2 old rules must be eliminated
o    NATIONAL SECURITY - Develop a plan to protect America's vital infrastructure from cyber-attacks and all other forms of attack
o    IMMIGRATION - Direct Department of Labor to investigate all abuses of visa programs
o    ETHICS REFORM - Drain the swamp by imposing a 5-year ban on executive officials becoming lobbyist after they leave the administration (and a lifetime ban on lobbying for foreign governments)

Wow Trump sounds like he plans to hit the ground running to as he says “Making America Great Again for Everyone and I mean Everyone.”

Regards, Live Dangerously, Tell the Truth.

PS>  For you Football Fans.

Barry Sanders Highlight reel.  Fun stuff.  Scarffed it off Facebook from Dennis Pitman.

----- Breaking News ------
Mi. Recount Challenge said will be made today Thurs. Dec. 1.      

Wednesday, November 30, 2016

Wednesday's the Day.

Pelosi Queen of the Hill?  Still?
We Find Out Today.

I started writing this Wed. Morning.
Pelosi challenger Tim Ryan as noted in previous posts is using the line that the Dem. Leadership is old and out of touch with middle, rural America.  I would not be surprised if he gave Pelosi a run for her money.  The vote of the Democrat caucus is today there are 198 Dems voting in secret to select their Minority Speaker
A few things in his favor. 
            1.  It is a secret ballot so those with a grudge or who want to make a statement can vote without fear of repercussions.
            2.  This seems to be the year of voting for the new candidate
            3.  His message is a strong one because the Dems have seen their party which controlled all branches lose control of all those branches under current leadership.  (I would assume they would be tired of being in the minority.
            4.  Tim Ryan is 43 years old and from Middle America (Ohio), his hidden message is to bring the Democrat party back closer to the middle away from the extreme left fringe; a place where they can start to rebuild their party.
            5.  If I was a Dem (perish the thought) I would vote for him over Pelosi in a heartbeat.  I would be on the phone calling what Congressmen I have left and demand they vote for him.  But I’m not a Dem so ----  Goooooo Pelosi.  She’s the one.
            6.  Oh yeah the main reason to not vote for Pelosi would be “He’s not Her” LOL

--- UPDATE Wed. 11/30/2016 ----

She Retains Her Strangle Hold on the Dems.

Pelosi retains her minority speakership role of the House Dems.  My fears are set aside.  Like I implied above now I’ll rest easier with the mid-terms looming.  That is when the Dems look to pick up some seats.  Well if they keep doubling down on leftist ideas it will be easier to rev our base up and Pelosi the San Francisco Treat will help us there.  Plus if “The Donald” keeps going like he is we could actually win some seats.


Michigan Recount.
We Find Out Today

I started writing this blog post Monday, 11/28/2016.  

That was the day I heard on the news that Jill Stein might be calling for a recount of Michigan’s election results along with those from Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.  

Oh Great I thought, another hanging chad Florida 2000 type of thing.

I thought as always, “Just the facts Mam”, so I went to the horse’s mouth to see how that would affect our local county.  I stopped and talked with our County Clerk Rebecca J. Griffin.  That was later in the day and she said she had been working on the recount issues all day.  She thought it was going to be a massive amount of work to do in a short time and probably wouldn’t make a difference in the end.

She told me of some of the things involved.  She needed to hire extra people just to count the ballots.  She talked about how the Secretary of State had to send people to each county to observe.  That in itself is 83 counties and 83 people.  She told me she had already had talks with the SOS, and she at this point seemed consigned to the idea that this was going to happen.  I’ll give her this.   She is one calm customer. 

I’ll give you an example.  There was a County Commissioner race in Oceana County which was within 4 or 5 votes and a recount was called.  I happened to be in the County Building when that took place and curiosity got the better of me and I ended up spending the whole day there.  

The County Board of Canvassers counted and found some votes to discount which created an actual tie and after a couple of long call to the Sec. of State it was agreed upon to pick a piece of paper from a hat. 
A paper was picked and a winner was proclaimed.  I’ve run for public office and have won and lost and I would find it hard not to think that if I was the loser what could I have done to get or change just one vote?  I would wrestle with that one for a long time.  But to my local point “One Vote Does Matter”
---- UPDATE 11/29/2016 around noon ----

Today is Tuesday and on the way to our Cozy Conservative Corner where some (Yup you guessed it) Conservatives meet every Tues. at 8am at La Fiesta Restaurant in Hart I heard on the radio that the State Board of Canvassers Certified the ballot results and Trump won by only 10,704, and that Jill Stein hired former Mi. Democrat Chair Mark Brewer to be her lawyer for this recount attempt.  That Canvass Board was unanimous in the certification.  The Board is made up of equal #s of Republicans and Democrats, 2@.  

This article gives a good understanding and mentions that even in Michigan with the tightest winning margin it was unlikely that Hillary had a chance to win.  

Here is another article expanding upon it all. Notice the Supreme Court mention and problem with deadlines etc.  What happens if we don’t make the deadlines because of a Trump challenge?  Will out 16 Electoral Votes be counted?  Too many questions I don’t have the answer for.

At our Cozy Conservative Breakfast we talked about the recount and we agreed that it wouldn’t change the outcome.  Here is a good article on how much the recount in Mi. might cost and who actually pays for it.  This article suggests that we the taxpayers might pay for a lot of it.  

---------Edited in Tues evening 11/29/2016-------

[Isn’t ironic that if Jill Stein hadn’t run in Michigan and the 51,463 votes she got here went to Hillary.  It would have given Hillary a 40,759 vote margin of victory and Michigan’s 16 electoral votes.  Also note that Ms. Stein had 30,980 votes in Wisconsin and Trump’s margin of victory was only 27,257.  With Stein’s votes Hillary again would of won Wisconsin’s 10 electoral votes.  Only in Pennsylvania which Trump won by 75,018 would Jill Stein’s paltry 48,795 votes not have given Hillary Pa.’s 20 electoral votes.] --------------- 

---- UPDATE Wednesday 11/30/2016 1:45 pm ----

Today is Wednesday and just got back from going to Hart and talking with our County Clerk also did some shopping.  Becky told me that she would have to hire between 8 and 10 people for the recount at $10 or $12 an hour.  She also said some of the bigger counties will be starting their recount Friday.  Oceana’s will probably start Sat morning. 

She also said that there was talk about merging some of the smaller counties together such as Lake perhaps and Oceana maybe Newaygo for the purpose of this recount.  She has been on several conference calls with the Secretary of State the last couple of days.  Becky also told me that the final word isn’t in yet so the final plans can’t be made.

Also found out for sure that the recount is a public affair.  Normally it would be in the County Building but if some counties merge their efforts we don’t know yet where it would be.  
I plan on attending if at all possible, you should too.

Silent Majority?

That’s what I’m talking about.  ESPN lost over 500 million viewers last month and over 600 million viewers the month before.  Who said we are silent.  

Who says changing channels doesn’t work?  Won’t get people’s attention?  I’ll tell you who --- The same people that told us Hillary would win in a landslide.
If you follow my post on Bottom Up Politics you know I believe in the power of one.  That one is you and me.  I’ve written that the “Up” feels power from the “Bottom” when we vote and when we change channels, don’t watch slanted movies; in effect when we assert our “individualness” and vote, act and live according to our own likes and not others. 
We are making a difference.

This quote is from the article by Dylan Gwinn writing for Breitbart about why ESPN has lost the viewers. “ESPN Ombudsman Jim Brady, admitted that the network lurched way too far to the left in recent years, alienating many viewers.”

He is right.

The current problem with them is the same with all other News or Real Action shows.  People used to turn into ESPN CNN and NFL Football to get the straight news so they can decide what the facts mean by themselves.  Now they get a slanted version of the news and are told what to think.  Even in arena of the NFL we are getting commentary that has nothing to do with the game.
The Trump victory came from those who were tired of all the BS and back talking and voted for Trump to do a job and he is trying to do it.  We hire (by tuning into ESPN) to get the sports facts and coverage.  Lately it’s like going to watch a movie with a critic sitting next to you telling you what you should be thinking and feeling when you are trying to just watch the movie.


Well enough for now, leaves need raking.  Keep looking for and demanding the Truth.
Regards, Live Dangerously seek the Truth

Bob Carr

Tuesday, November 29, 2016

Blind Leading the Blind

Blind Leading the Blind

I almost feel sorry for her and the Democrat Party – well almost - maybe on a good day.  Today is a good day for me, what with President Elect Donald Trump (I can’t get over saying that) acting Presidential in ways we can only long remember Presidents acting.  Standing for something, and then matching words with deeds and acting as if he was elected to take care of America for us.

He Was.

Under President Obama the Dems have suffered massive political losses not only in the Federal Government but down to the lowest level.  On this blog I turn things around and call the lowest or Township the highest, after all this blog is titled “Bottom Up Politics”.

A good local example of the coat-tails of Donald Trump was the race for the Oceana County Commission seat previously held by Evelyn Kolby since 2000.  Evelyn (a Democrat) whom I got to know well recently passed away and I was sorry to lose her as she was someone I could talk to about politics from the “other side”.  My heartfelt condolences go out to her husband Edward.  

The point however was that Martha Meyette a newcomer to politics beat her rather handily.  To Martha’s credit she did a lot of door to door campaigning and worked hard.  She was also at a couple of our Trump Flash Mobs, I obviously appreciated that.  That Commission seat included Newfield Township (Evelyn’s home) and Greenwood Township (Martha’s home).  It was shocking election night as the Newfield Township clerk brought in the results for Newfield to see Meyette won Evelyn’s Township by I think 20 votes.  Later Greenwood Meyette’s home township went to her big time and she handily won the Commission seat.  

Isn’t it ironic that it was the Republicans who almost got “straight party voting” eliminated? 

Look also at our state politics during the 8 years of the Obama Presidency.  Before Obama Mi. Republicans only had the State Senate by a small margin, but after Obama we won the State House by unprecedented gains in those 8 years and to top it off we gained the Governorship.  And for me the big one was installing and keeping a “Rule of Law” State Supreme Court.

On the National side of politics the following link shows the states in which one party holds all three branches for total control, the state House, State Senate and the Governorship.  Click on the pre 2010 election then on the pre 2016 election to see the dramatic shift. 

Nationally in those 8 years the Republicans won the House and Senate and now the Presidency.

There was a void in leadership and the people’s angst at being ignored was fueling that void and that void was being filled with the work from the bottom - right on up to the top.  A Presidential candidate who listened to the people and their anger and frustrations was needed.  A withering Primary with 18 candidates was fought and produced one.  That was Donald Trump.  He practiced a new politic won the battle for the nomination.  We all know what happened next. 

We Voted, We Won.

We had our man.

Which brings us to the other side, the broken Democrat Party and the title of this blog.  “The Blind Leading the Blind”.  The Donald wasn’t the blind one, his supporters weren’t; but everybody else was
The Democrat Party is in a mess much as the Republicans were before Reagan and his landslides.  Two keys here before I start. 
1.  We came back from our defeats, they can too.
2.  We can’t sit back and relax, we have to keep mobilized.

President Obama soon to be Ex-President Obama has said he will be helping the Dems start winning again.  How can it not be obvious even to the Dems that he is the driving force behind their current desolation?  By going to the Hard Left he has alienated most of their working class base.  That is why they are in the mess they’re in, the middle working class has had enough of being lectured too and blamed for his mistakes.

How can Obama helping to lead the Dems after he leaves office, not be a good thing for us?

Below is a good resource to see the gains made especially at the state level by the Republicans during the Obama Presidency.  Which I call “The lost Decade of Obama”.  Here I borrowed from the slogan “Michigan’s lost decade” derived from Mi. Dem. Governor Jennifer Granholm’s 8 years in power.

The next battle for the Dems is to select someone to lead them out of their mess.  Ms. Pelosi wants to keep the job as House Minority Leader:  she offers the same worn out policies that have failed and the American people are tired of.  

Her challenger Tim Ryan (D) Ohio said the following in a piece from “The Hill” written by Mike Lillis.  “We have got to have someone who cannot just go on MSNBC, but go on Fox and Fox Business and CNBC and go into union halls and fish fries and churches all over the country and start a brush fire about what a new Democratic Party looks like.” .  That bothers me because it is exactly how the Conservatives took over the Republican Party and the Country

Remember too how Trump went to Detroit, got backing from Black and white ministers?

Frankly I hope Pelosi gets the vote from their caucus.  Then that would prove to me that the blind really are leading the blind and I will sleep better.  We have a chance here to cement the connections we have made with the working middle class.  Pelosi if she wins the leadership position would give us the breathing space we need to keep reaching out to truly broaden our base.

The biggest weapon the Dems have left on their side is the Main Stream Media.  How can we at the local level compete with that?  We can and we have.  It is simple, from the bottom up, just change channels.  Stop buying liberal newspapers, stop going to liberal websites and stop watching liberal movies.  

We can and have been making our opinions known.  The flip side is shop at businesses that share our views, go to channels that tell the truth, and get involved if you can with a good candidate at the local level.  Pat people on the back when they do right and not just yell at them when they do wrong.

As with did in politics, we make major changes by starting at the bottom.  First there must be a real reason for our protests (for me individual freedom will do), then we need to organize.  We have seen that the Trump Presidency could not have been possible without all of the effort from the bottom up over the last 8 years gaining majorities in the states.  In effect we created a vacuum that was filled by a candidate.  As I have blogged about before we need a good candidate.  Not just any candidate but one that was tested in battle.  Tested against 18 other candidates trying to fill that void.  A fighter and a winner.  Trump listened to us and we responded and he/we won.
It is our job now to fill another void, this time in the Media.  That void is there and has been filled since Fox came on the scene, the internet and Google search, and journalism.  Andrew Breitbart helped fill it and created Breitbart News.  People like Anne Coulter, Michelle Malkin and James O’Keefe and Project Veritas, Drudge and all the rest.  Not to mention Steve Bannon. LOL we have to let Free Enterprise be free. Don't forget Drudge, Rush, Hannity and Laura Ingrahm.

Think about this for a moment please.  Free Enterprise is the last place we have to express our opinions.  Politics used to represent us but became more and more under the influence of lobbyists, then labor came up to help the working man only to themselves be bought out, the media was there alone to represent us against big Government, big Business etc.  Then they too seem to have gotten into bed with politics and labor and big business to sell us out. 

Perhaps this is why free enterprise is being attacked constantly by the media, government, and labor.  It is the one tool we have left to make our voices heard.  Voting which is the political equivalent to free enterprise and which for both the freer the better.

We can use that tool help make news coverage more “fair and balanced” letting us help our elected leaders keep their promises.  Bottom line is that we are the key ingredient to Freedom.  If freedom of the press is the Fifth Estate, then we are the First Estate upon which all the others are built. 

We have the responsibility to judge whether what we are told is honest or not.  If not then it is our responsibility to let them know.  If they don’t listen we have the responsibility to change how we act.  If necessary change our news provider.  We have been doing that for a long time and have seen the Mass media in print, TV and radio going down in viewership.
We have seen in the past and now with NFL how just plain people like you and me from the bottom up can have an effect upon what is happening.  With the lack of respect for the flag and National Anthem shown recently by some players, the attendance and viewing numbers began falling.  That already has made an impact.  We have seen it with businesses such as Chic Filet; since their drubbing by the media they are doing better than ever. 

On a local scale we saw the bad press about Fricano’s Pizza because they put out Trump signs and supported Trump.  The Chronicle, MI live and protestors tried to shut them down.  At a recent event I talked with Ted Fricano and thanked him for weathering the storm and asked if his business had suffered.  He told me that if anything his business has increased. He said at the event, this is the first time since they opened the building that he has full occupancy.  Ted is a true example of politics from the bottom up, our voices can be heard.

Bob Carr 
Live Dangerously, Tell the Truth

Just a quick reminder of something one man said that started the Tea Party.  A single voice can make a difference.

Rick Santelli’s Rant that started the Tea Party Movement. .